Subject: Re: Magic Bullet
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 17:13:17 -0500
From: Anthony Marsh <anthonymarsh@usa.net>
Organization: The Puzzle Palace
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy.jfk.moderated

John McAdams wrote:
>
> In article <32EA5142.5AEB@foxvalley.net>,
> Russell Burr  <lho@foxvalley.net> wrote:
> >John Locke wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> I'm satisfied that CE399 did the damage alleged to it. I'm also
satisfied
> >> by Lattimer's experiment that reproduced the SBT track and produced a
> >> bullet with damage similar to CE399. If it is your thesis that the
> >> bullet lacked the energy to smash the rib, then back it up with
> >> evidence. I've backed up my point of view with Lattimer. I didn't just
> >> say, "I don't doubt the bullet's energy." I've got empirical evidence
> >> on my side. What have you got?
> >>
> >> john
> >
> >
> >Well, it just goes to show you that once you attempt to speculate,
> >even for a second, that either you or Mcadams brings me down to
> >earth!:-)!
> >
> >I realize that empirical evidence, no matter what field of expertise
> >one embraces, is the rule. Given that, has Lattimer's findings been
> >replicated? I don't mean to be a pain, but if we're talking in terms
> >of the scientific method that you seem to hold so dear, than what can
> >you tell me and others on this NG? One study alone does not prove
> >something as fact or even supposition.
> >
>
> I know of nobody who has replicated Lattimer's experiments.  But I know of
> nobody who has *tried* and failed.  So the weight of the evidence is
> supportive of the SBT.  Supporters have Lattimer's studies, and opponents
> have nothing.
>
> Lattimer's studies have been published in a long series of articles in
> reputable refereed medical journals.
>
> It is worth nothing that bits and pieces of Lattimer's work have been
> replicated.  Olivier for the WC showed that FMJ bullets will fragment when
> hitting human skulls, and will cause a pattern of damage a lot like what
> JFK suffered.  Fackler showed that it's possible to get a "pristine"
> bullet when you shoot it into a cadaver wrist that the same velocity as
> the bullet that hit Connally in the write.  Alverez showed jet effect,
> etc.
>
> .John

When you speak about Fackler, it would be helpful to state exactly what
he did. Didn't his test assume a particular impact velocity which was
based on assumptions about how much the M-C bullet (CE 399) had slowed
down after going through Connally's body? And didn't he fire the bullet
directly into a cadaver wrist? Do you have a photo of his test bullet
scanned in to show people?
OK, so why wouldn't another bullet going at about the same velocity
hitting Connally's wrist directly come out in the same condition on
11/22/63 without having to go through Connally first? CE 399 could have
been the bullet which hit Connally's wrist if it had been going slower
than normal.

Anthony Marsh