Subject: Re: Chicago Plot Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 21:42:54 -0400 From: KFITZ Organization: Prodigy Internet CC: kfitz@prodigy.net Newsgroups: startext.jfk D.Boylan wrote: > > Vince, Martin, and anyone else. > > I've read a little about the Chicago plot but I'm still > pretty much in the dark about it. I've seen the names Mosley (an > FBI informant) Homer Echeverria, and Paulino Sierra mentioned. > > Can anyone supply any more details? > > Dave Hi, Dave Hope these brief notes are of some help to you. Kathlee Fitzgerald Abraham Bolden in 1978 was 43 years old; also in 1978 the HSCA questioned him about the events which allegedly took place in Chicago just prior to and on 11/2/63 relating to JFK’s cancelled Chicago trip: said: around October 30, 1963 recalled there was a phone call from the FBI but he doesn't know if it was a local FBI (Chicago)or D.C prior to a teletype message to the Chicago office from the FBI. which was unusual for the FBI to cooperate on cases with the Service regarding an alleged threat against the life of JFK during 11/2/63 Chicago trip , clerical clerk Mary Cooney who worked in the office took the message to the ATSAIC Martineau, said surveillance was set up on two of the four identified subjects associated with the threat but because he and Agent Conrad Cross were black, they were excluded from the Chicago "north side" surveillance, was aware of the surveillance progress from office gossip and monitoring the Service radio channels in his car, stated the surveillance was "blown" due to errors by Agent Jay Lloyd Stocks but the two subjects were apprehended and taken to the Chicago office, in addition to Stocks said Agents Strong, Motto and Noonan were involved in the apprehension of the two suspects, said that all agents involved in this surveillance were told by Martineau to turn in their notebooks and that all memos were typed by Charlotte Klapowski who also sequestered all memo copies relating to this surveillance, saw only one of the two men on 11/2/63 that had been apprehended whom he described as swarthy- stocky-"a truck driver type" about 5'9" or 5'10" wearing a jacket and shirt with open collar and had dark crew cut hair, when shown a "mug" book containing 1 through 71 and 73-81 stated that the facial structure in photo #74 was similar to that of the subject being questioned by agents in the office. [Photo # 74 is listed as "unidentified], said one of the men had a Spanish-sounding name, agents took the suspects’ photographs with a Polaroid camera, also stated that the agents' typed notes and the memos were taken to O'Hare Airport where they were given to a commercial flight crew member departing for Washington, related that the two suspects in Chicago were turned over to the Chicago Police and departed the Service office in a patrol wagon [McLeod was confident that if this incident had occurred he would have known about it and he did not and stated that he has heard of trips being altered but has never heard of one being canceled because of a threat (NARA JFK Collection Document #180-10071-10164 (3/06/78 Gary McLeod interview summary)], recalled that Chief Rowley called from Washington and suggested that Martineau use a COS file number regarding this matter, remembers Tom Mosely's name mentioned in the office around 11/63 period, said Thomas Kelley came to Chicago from Dallas on or about 11/26/63 and mentioned the name John Heard or Hurt whereby office card files were searched for that and similar sounding names, stated that he and Conrad Cross were sent to Rockwell Street in a Black/Spanish neighborhood to determine where a certain person who PRS had a record of pertaining a previous threat but whose name Bolden did not remember was on 11/22/63 but they were unable to locate the person because the subject had moved, stated he was the informant who supplied the information for Edwin Black's 11/75 Chicago Independent article [HSCA Document # 180-10070-10273: 1/19/78 interview of Bolden] MAURICE MARTINEAU: in 2/63 transferred to Chicago office as ASAIC, was Acting SAIC of Chicago office in November, 1963 and when asked about the JFK cancelled 11/2/63 trip there stated he did not recall any particular surveillance of Cubans and only remembered the name Mosley as a "police buff... who knew where there was a stock of automatic weapons which some Cubans were trying to buy... and at no time do I recall talking to the FBI about it" (Joseph Noonan stated that, in 1961 or 1962, Mosley came to the office to talk to SAIC Martineau about counterfeiting which resulted in Agent Motto working undercover on it; in 11/63 and also Mosley told Martineau about some anti- Castro Cubans who wanted to buy automatic weapons [NARA JFK Collection Document # 180-10104-10331; NARA JFK Collection Document # 180-10087-10191; Abraham Bolden claimed around October 30, 1963 there was a phone call from the FBI but he doesn't know if it was a local FBI (Chicago)or D.C prior to a teletype message to the Chicago office from the FBI. regarding an alleged threat against the life of JFK during 11/2/63 Chicago trip and that clerical person Mary Cooney who worked in the office took the message to Martineau [HSCA Document # 180-10070-10273: 1/19/78 interview of Bolden] McLeod, Gary M. JFK era: Chicago office agent, recalled Tom Mosley as an informant who he thought the Service may have gotten from another agency but does not recall Mosley being involved with gun dealing, could not name any particular group as posing the possibility of a threat against JFK, remembered JFK’s 4/63 visit Chicago where there was evening motorcade and stated that there was no significant threat investigation on that visit, regarding the events surrounding the JFK 11/2/63 cancelled Chicago trip: on 11/2/63 met Agent Robert Motto at the stadium in the morning where he was given his post assignment, shortly thereafter was notified that JFK’s visit to Chicago had been canceled and was told to go home, believes he later heard the trip was canceled because JFK had a cold instead of Bolden’s allegation of JFK life threat, stated that he has heard of trips being altered but has never heard of one being canceled because of a threat, did recall the name Thomas Arthur Vallee and that Ed Tucker was assigned to the Vallee case which involved guns but does not remember any involvement by the Chicago Police [see Bolden and Tucker], remembers reading the 11/75 Edwin Black Chicago Independent article and couldn't imagine where Black got the information recounting four subjects allegedly involved in the JFK threat and Agent Stock's surveillance of these suspects [Bolden was the source (HSCA Document # 180-10070-10273: 1/19/78 interview of Bolden)] but was confident that if this incident had occurred he would have known about it Motto, Robert J. JFK era agent in Chicago office [Document #180-10087-10190 ], in 1961 or 1962 Mosley came to the office to talk to SAIC Martineau about counterfeiting which resulted in Agent Motto working undercover on it [NARA JFK Collection Document # 180-10104-10331; Black, Edwin, "The Plot to kill JFK in Chicago, November 2, 1963- Twenty Days Before Dallas", Chicago Independent, 11/75], on 11/2/63 Agent McLeod met Motto at the stadium in the morning [NARA JFK Collection Document #180-10071-10164 (3/06/78 Gary McLeod interview summary)], went to the Air Force-Army game at Soldiers Field 11/2/63 and "The trip was canceled. I think they told us at the game, but we decided to watch it anyway...When I got back to the office, someone said there had been threats” but could not recall who in his office told him nor did he not recall surveilling any Latins/Cubans during that period or the names Rodriguez and Gonzalez [12/30/77 Motto Interview Summary (Document #180-10087-10190) Noonan, Joseph E. was assigned to the Chicago office in 1963, had participated in presidential protection plans for JFK's 11/2/63 Chicago trip which was cancelled at the last minute, knew about Agents Tucker and Strong involvement in the arrest of Vallee on 11/2/63, was involved in the Mosley case (in 1961 or 1962, Mosley came to the office to talk to SAIC Martineau about counterfeiting which resulted in Agent Motto working undercover on it; in 11/63, Mosley told Martineau about some anti- Castro Cubans who wanted to buy automatic weapons) [3HSCA372-9; 3HSCA383; NARA JFK Collection Document # 180-10104-10331]; LBJ era: Chicago office, stated that Mosley had informed that office that anti-Castro Cubans were making threats against LBJ who said that "if Johnson got in their way in an attempt to invade their homeland he would be taken care of like Kennedy was" or words similar to that so Robert Motto went undercover again to try to get them to verbalize these threats in his presence, stated that he and other agents were concerned that these Cubans had ties to the CIA so Paterni in Washington was contacted about it but Paterni notified them to proceed with their investigation, shortly after this response from Paterni Service headquarters called and told them to drop the investigation on Mosley and Eschevarria and send all their files and notes regarding it to Washington [NARA JFK Collection Document # 180-10104-10331] Tucker, Edward Z. Chicago office, stated he was never aware of a teletype message which came in to the Chicago office from the FBI or anyone else regarding a threat against the President in 10/63-11/63 [see Bolden], stated that on or about October 30, 1963 he and Agent Tom Strong interviewed ThomasVallee who was alleged to represent a threat to JFK which was standard Service procedure to make such visits prior to a Presidential visits and Tucker had concerns after his conversation with Vallee who had one or more rifles in his possession and reported his misgivings to the Secret Service office, the next day Vallee's landlady called the Service office and said that Vallee had told her that he was not going to work on Saturday (the day of JFK’s visit to Chicago) which resulted in the Service having the Chicago Police Department surveil Vallee, stated that prior to JFK’s arrival in Chicago Vallee was arrested by two Chicago Police officers on 11/2/63, Tucker's original assignment on 11/2/63 was to meet JFK at O'Hare Airport and since he did not go to the Service office had no knowledge of any other subjects that the Service may have had in custody at the time, stated also that if there had been suspects in custody at that time he was not informed of it nor does he remember the Service taking into custody any one between 10/30-11/2/63, upon reaching the airport in the morning of 11/2/63 was told that the President had canceled his trip to Chicago but that several Members of Congress had arrived and the Service had been instructed escort them to the Army-Air Force Academy game at Soldier Field but thinks he went home instead, when asked about the 12/3/63 memo he authored regarding Tom Mosley and guns for Cubans "who may be involved in the assassination of the late President John F. Kennedy, Tucker stated that Mosley was a Secret Service informant known as 2-1-266 who was involved with many of Latin types but did not remember the outcome of the matter but feels that it came about after 11/22/63 on 12/3/63 wrote a report on alleged Cuban prior knowledge of the JFK assassination plot [26WC441; 3HSCA383; CE 2959; NARA JFK Collection Document # 180-10070-10276 (HSCA 1/19/78 Edward Tucker interview summary)]